June 5, 2008

G63: Red Sox 7, Rays 1

Rays    - 010 000 000 - 1  9  0
Red Sox - 310 300 00x - 7 8 1
The Red Sox complete a sweep of Tampa -- and take a 1.5-game lead in the East -- with an easy win highlighted by a 15-minute second-inning brawl.

Shields hit Coco Crisp in the front thigh to lead off the second. Coco took one step towards first, then charged the mound. Unlike most baseball "fights", this one featured real and repeated punches. Crisp and Shields were ejected, as was Jonny Gomes, who was on top of the pile hammering punches down on Crisp (and a few on his own teammates). (Carl Crawford should have been ejected for the same activity.)

Manny Ramirez belted a three-run dong over everything in left in the first and then drove in two more runs with a bases-loaded single in the fourth. Lester's outing was walk-free (6.1-8-1-0-5, 108) and Mike Timlin and David Aarsdma finished up.

One broadcast note: When Kevin Youkilis (who went to right field when Jacoby Ellsbury was pulled after hurting his right wrist on a diving catch in the fourth) was plunked by Al Reyes in the eighth, Joe Magraine (FSN Tampa) said, with his voice dripping with sarcasm: "What a shame."

Youkilis had not done anything noteworthy in the game. Apparently, Magraine doesn't like how Yook complains on called strikes -- which is odd, since Magraine himself was groaning loudly tonight on several close pitches that were not called strikes on Red Sox hitters. It clearly made his night that a Red Sox hitter had been drilled -- and he was happy to share his glee. Classy guy.

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Note the early starting time!

James Shields (3.24, 128 ERA+) / Jon Lester (3.67, 118 ERA+)

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9casey said...

Crisp is one angry SOB.....I really thought he was going to go to first ...but since i dvr the game I have watch the fight 3 times allready, and like all fights in person or on TV, I still have a knot in my stomach...I hope later on they Bring in Timlin and he's packin' .Would that be allright Joe? Joe I am actually suprised you are so against it....And people say baseball is boring

allan said...

last year, 2004 -- whatever.

Wow, I never knew that rule.

You must have missed many games managed by Jimy Williams. (Or was it Gump who often lost the DH due to being stupid? (See, I can't remember!))

Benjamin said...

The flexion in the WPA graph looks like Ellsbury's wrist.

Benjamin said...

That rule came up earlier in this season when the MFYs had their DH (Posada?) take the field.

Joe Grav said...

I'm not against fights, 9c.

just beanballs.

Joe Grav said...

Redsock, my dad wants to know why they have to change the ball every time it hits the dirt, but if a ball gets hit, it gets thrown back in and re-used.

I figured you'd be as good a person to ask as anyone.

laura k said...

Oh man, can't believe Upton caught that.

Joe Grav said...

heidi reports x-rays negative on jacob e

9casey said...

I got 201 completely unintentional and no shout outs.......

Amy said...

I thought that was gone.

LBJ with strain? Or sprain?

9casey said...

Joe Grav said...
heidi reports x-rays negative on jacob e

so where Papi's

allan said...

they might toss those too, but supposedly, the dirt could scuff the ball and a pitcher could, if he knew how, use the rough patch to get a bigger break on a pitch. i guess a bat doesn't do that (or grass?)

old days: catcher would catch a ball in the dirt, then rub it across their shin guards to get a good scuff/rip to it. worked better than a spitter.

laura k said...

Time for a conflagration.

laura k said...

I think sprain. Unfortunately.

allan said...

i heard sprain on fsn

i noted 201 at L.

Joe Grav said...

i heard strain from h-bomb

Joe Grav said...

but my ears are failing me

Joe Grav said...

JD "I love to hit Grand Slams" Drew

allan said...

and because of that possible break, the safety of batters is an issue. i guess. seems excessive to me.

laura k said...

9Casey with the 201!

(Sorry it's so late.)

Amy said...

Yeah, I HEARD strain, but figured they must have meant SPRAIN.

What would a strained wrist mean? Tired? Through a colander?

Joe Grav said...

yes!

Amy said...

I'll take the walk!

allan said...

migraine groaning the booth.

hahahah -- fuck you!!!!!!!!!

laura k said...

Allan said Drew had to walk, then Manny can hit GS #21.

The first half came true...

Joe Grav said...

time for your announcement, allan

Benjamin said...

Strain would probably mean hyperextension but not as severe as a sprain.

Joe Grav said...

hahaha

laura k said...

colander :)

allan said...

hey mbm -- #21?

laura k said...

strain might mean it pulled back too far or in a weird direction, is hurt, but not really badly. a word for lack of any other word.

Benjamin said...

A grand slam sure would help give this team a lift.

laura k said...

Which Phil already said using bigger, more precise words.

Joe Grav said...

ahh, he's throwing at him! charge the mound!

Amy said...

Phil, you are a regular encyclopedia! Not only a tech geek, but a doctor as well!

Joe Grav said...

gotta give im a meat ball here

Amy said...

So, Doctor Phil, how is a sprain different from a strain?

Joe Grav said...

aww manny dammit

allan said...

on this dong, i want the full mummy!

and a walk around the bases

Joe Grav said...

lol dr. phil

Rob said...

I went out for a desperately needed bike ride, and my dad calls me mid-ride and tells me about the fight. I hate it when that happens. But that's what SportsCenter and Sox in 2 are for.

MANNY RACKING UP THAT RIBEYE TOTAL!

Joe Grav said...

wooot!

Amy said...

YES! No GS, but hey, why be picky?

laura k said...

lovely

allan said...

5 RBI for MBM -- in 4 innings

Joe Grav said...

i love it when guys have an RBI per inning ratio

Benjamin said...

We'll take it.

Amy said...

I guess that brawl didn't help the Rays much. And didn't hurt us.

Still hurting for LBJ though.

Rob said...

Beat LA chants start.

That's the thing with chants. Through TV and radio they're hard to understand. I thought they were saying "re-sign Lowell" for some reason.

Red Sox certainly came out on top with that fight. Got Shields out of the game. That's a win right there.

Amy said...

Beat LA??

Rob said...

Finally, the Red Sox tie the Rays - in the hits column.

Joe Grav said...


Red Sox certainly came out on top with that fight. Got Shields out of the game. That's a win right there.

ezzactly :D

Benjamin said...

amy: Celtics/Lakers tonight.

Rob said...

Beat LA??

NBA Finals reference. Celtics playing the Los Angeles Lakers in an hour. Game 1.

Amy said...

Sprain v strain here

Joe Grav said...

an hour and seventeen minutes, actually. they're starting the game as late as humanly possible

Joe Grav said...

WHAAAAAAAT???????????????????????

Amy said...

OH, yeah, basketball.

You really want to keep me confused.

Carter not doing so badly there.

laura k said...

Nice catch for the yanigan!

allan said...

ummmm -- what's going on in the sox dugout?

Joe Grav said...

what the fuck?

Rob said...

Who says Carter can't play OF?


Whoa. Brawl in the DUGOUT? Manny tweaked out in the dugout! Went after Youk!

Amy said...

What just happened with Manny?

laura k said...

Why are these assholes laughing over "that's why Manny is one of the more popular members of the Red Sox"? He IS one of the more popular players, by all reliable reports.

Rob said...

Remy and Orsillo are laughing about it.

Amy said...

Too much testosterone. As Joe said (so don't say I am being sexist.)

Joe Grav said...

wow good work carter

im still stunned

Rob said...

No idea how it started, but Manny was angry about something and went after Youk, and then was pulled from the dugout into the clubhouse.

Carter again!

Joe Grav said...

stupid.

Joe Grav said...

ah, that wasn't intentional. nm

allan said...

2 outs
no one on
breaking ball
hits crawford -- who was a serious asshole in the brawl

hmmmm

Rob said...

Wild game.

Joe Grav said...

is there a full moon tonight?

Amy said...

What in the world could Manny be mad at Youk about?

Joe Grav said...

the crack camera guys at nesn need to track back on that one.

Rob said...

What in the world could Manny be mad at Youk about?

I have no idea. That's the thing. They just finished with a very productive inning. Why would anyone be mad at anyone?

Amy said...

Sprains affect ligaments whereas strains affect muscles or tendons.

Knowing that tells me nothing about which is worse.

Joe Grav said...

yook looked more confused than anything

allan said...

at first, fsn's shot was from so far away, the players looked like ants. they got closer for the pulling away of people.

Benjamin said...

If Wally doesn't take a swing at Raymond before this game is over, I'll be disappointed.

Rob said...

I wonder if it had to do with Youkilis going to the OF rather than Manny. Youk could have said something.

Rob said...

LMAO!!! Did anyone else see that shot of Remy and Orsillo fake-fighting in the booth?

allan said...

fsn showed don faking a flurry of punches at remy.

does devil ray-mond make road trips?

Joe Grav said...

Sox selected Sarasota HS shortstop Casey Kelly with their first pick in the draft... he's a two-sport star and may choose to go to the university of Tennessee to play quarterback.

Joe Grav said...

DO and Remy stage a 'fight' in the booth, and erupt in giggles.

Rob said...

Meanwhile - good AB for Casey. Driving up that pitch count.

Joe Grav said...

is it just me or has this been an extraordinarily long at bat?

laura k said...

If Wally doesn't take a swing at Raymond before this game is over, I'll be disappointed.

:>)

sprain v strain, i wonder if those terms are always used technically like that, muscles v ligaments. i think a lot of people say strain when it's just not as bad as a sprain.

Joe Grav said...

aw aw awwww

Amy said...

At least REmy and Orsillo can provide a mocking look at all this nonsense.

Amy said...

Well, we non-docs use them wrong all the time, but I assume that when they get a release from the medical staff, it is accurate. But then the media may screw it up again.

From what I can gather, there doesn't really seem to be much difference between the two, as there can be different grades of strains and sprains.

Tek K's again. Damn.

9casey said...

L-girl said...
9Casey with the 201!

(Sorry it's so late.)



Thank You , I really needed that positive reinforcement.

Rob said...

Overshift on Carter.

AND HE BEATS THE SHIFT!!!

Joe Grav said...

ya carter

i already like this WMP trade

laura k said...

The kid's having a good day!

Joe Grav said...

i kinda already liked it when it happened, tbh

Amy said...

Carter on a roll! Two good catches, two hits.

allan said...

staats notes that the fans in the stands have been calm.

???

like he expects sox fans to fight other sox fans? could there be a rays fan in fenway tonight? he'd be outnumbered like 37,000 to 1.

Amy said...

How is WMP doing this year? As I recall, last year he ended up doing pretty well for the Nationals.

Benjamin said...

Christ Carter opens a singles club.

Joe Grav said...

I hope he does well. I like him. He just wasn't a right fit here.

Amy said...

Sox fans: peace loving pacifists.

(Ha!)

Amy said...

Christ? He hasn't saved us yet.

Benjamin said...

WMP: .207 BA, .262 OBP, .267 SLG.

40 OPS+

9casey said...

Joe Grav said...
I hope he does well. I like him. He just wasn't a right fit here.


Your right he couldn't hit....

Rob said...

So, Manny's gotta stay in the game, right? Go down to the clubhouse to cool off then come back up and bat?

Benjamin said...

amy nailed it.

Amy said...

Ouch, not so well. Poor Willy Mo.

laura k said...

hasn't saved us

LOL, excellent

Amy said...

I nailed it? What? (Good thing Andy isn't here.) Was this a Christ reference? (Got to be careful here, don't want to offend anyone with a sacreligous remark about crucifixion.)

laura k said...

I wish you guys could all get here for our party on Saturday. That would really be fun.

Tim was supposed to come but bailed.

Joe Grav said...

christ carter died for my sins.

laura k said...

nailed it with the christ reference, another good one. everyone is sharp tonight.

allan said...

some east showdown this is.
pfft.
fucking doormat rays.

Benjamin said...

Yeah, a Jesus pun.

We're all Jews and atheists in here, remember?

Joe Grav said...

I can't come this week, but i might be coming up to T-O when the Sox play up there in August.

allan said...

don't get cross at phil for that pun.

Amy said...

Nail. Sharp.

Boy, we are crossing all kinds of lines here. :)

Joe Grav said...

it would be great to have a JOS party. Let's throw all of our locations onto a map and pick the mathematical central location between them all.

Joe Grav said...

don't get cross at phil for that pun.

ba da BA

laura k said...

We're all Jews and atheists in here, remember?

Yeah, and some of us are both!

I can't come this week, but i might be coming up to T-O when the Sox play up there in August.

Cool! Be sure and let us know.

Joe Grav said...

we're getting into thorny territory, harhar

Amy said...

I wish TO was a bit closer. Your party sounds like one not to miss.

Where is Tim? I miss his input and his food talk.

allan said...

amy has suggested a jos game at fenway next summer.

laura k said...

sharp was a completely unconscious pun. i do that constantly. like 3 times a day.

Joe Grav said...

will do. I have like 10 friends going up. I just need to nail down a paying job for the summer in addition to my unpaid internship, which may be difficult from a scheduling standpoint

Joe Grav said...

bad low strike call; i'll take it

Amy said...

Joe, I just did that with my three best friends from college, and we are all meeting in Chicago. One from Seattle, one from Boulder, one from DC, and me.

I am instead cooking up a game for us all at Fenway next year, once Allan and Laura see if and when they can trek to Boston next season.

Joe Grav said...

no, ump, lester really does have terrible control, he wasn't throwing at him

laura k said...

We should definitely do a JoS game at Fenway next year. A weeknight game. We haven't been to Fenway since right before we moved to Canada, July 2005.

Joe Grav said...

That would be awesome. I would so wait in line to get tickets for that game.

Amy said...

Joe is nailing things down also.

And he goes to BC.

allan said...

fsn wants lester tossed for that ball behind aybar. they have completely ignored/brushed aside his hitting crawford. DUMBASSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Benjamin said...

Leaving work. Hopefully our team's still standing by the time I get home.

Amy said...

Jere and I are going to work on tickets once we get dates and the game schedule for next season.

Nice DP!

laura k said...

Picture from our last trip to Fenway.

Can you read what it says? Allan surprised me with this.

allan said...

we could make plans to attend next april's ring ceremony, but tix would be super hard to get.

Joe Grav said...

Joe is nailing things down also.

And he goes to BC.


:D

allan said...

sid at 96 pitches and up by 6.
should be it.

Joe Grav said...

Aw that pic is awesome

Rob said...

Manny back in the dugout. As Youk is on the field.

laura k said...

If anyone who doesn't have cats wants to put us up for a night, we'd be most grateful. :)

laura k said...

20th anniversary of the day we met.

Rob said...

What a catch by Upton!

laura k said...

I said to the man sitting next to me, Look, that's me! I had to tell someone!

Upton is annoying.

Joe Grav said...

I've been to church a grand total of 1 time in my 2 years at BC, which means I have missed... let's see...

19 masses a week x 40 weeks x 2 = 1520... 1519/1520=

99.9342015% of masses

Joe Grav said...

upton is unreal

Rob said...

I went to church for a couple of years as a kid. Couldn't stand it. I hated the concept of "Sunday School."

laura k said...

Of course a lot of great gamethreaders can't get to Fenway very easily. Phil, Zen, Ish (although he's closer).

Amy said...

I do have cats and live 90 miles from Fenway, but otherwise, you are welcome to stay here.

I have seen that pic...very cool and very romantic, Allan. Lots of brownie points for that!

Joe Grav said...

Hey, whatever. It's not for me. Especially the Catholic Church. If I had religious beliefs, those wouldn't be it.

I really admire the Jesuits, the Dominicans, and Catholic Charities, though. (most of the time)

laura k said...

99.9342015% of masses

So close, yet not 100%. :)

Amy said...

Ish is in southern Maine. He has no excuse.

Phil will be in NY, I think. That's a bit harder.

allan said...

also that 2005 day at fenway -- we cruhsed tampa.

6 in the first - tall mark hendrickson did not retire a batter!

Joe Grav said...

So close, yet not 100%. :)

My friend at MIT told me that .99999999999 enough times actually does equal 1. There's some convoluted proof that I don't really undrestand.

Amy said...

SoSock and Zen would have a challenge.

And the Lord. (THe one in England, not the other one.)

laura k said...

Thank you Amy. Jere has offered too, and he lives nearby, but has cats.

When I was younger I'd go to people's homes with cats, and just suffer. I can't do it anymore.

Joe Grav said...

floyd w/ the roid rage

s1c said...

If anyone who doesn't have cats wants to put us up for a night, we'd be most grateful. :)

Sorry, have two cats but if this does happen, and people need to stay like in a hotel, I can guarantee hotel rooms about 1 hour away at less than <60 per night. Free wifi, etc.

Joe Grav said...

hahaha fuck you floyd

allan said...

fsn guys seem like they wanna go fight lester.

fuck you shitheads - it's called pitching inside, i.e., baseball.

laura k said...

If Phil will be in NY, he will also have no excuse. Toronto is much farther away.

And the Lord. (THe one in England, not the other one.)

:>)

Rob said...

If I have the money and get the timing right, I can get to Boston and go to a game.

Amy said...

If anyone touches Lester, even I will get violent.

allan said...

fsn speculating that yook felt manny did not come out of the dugout quickly enough in the fight.

no evidence, no nothing -- just making shit up.

Joe Grav said...

I went to Family Weekend mass when my grandmother came to visit me Freshman year. Oh actually I've been to 2, I went to a special vigil after the Virginia Tech shooting. So I'm not quite to 'statistical 100%'

laura k said...

s1c, that's cool.

let's see if we can make this happen.

Amy said...

I am pretty sure Phil said he was moving to NY next fall. But then I thought Casey was Bailey. So who knows?

Joe Grav said...

I would welcome you guys, but I doubt you want to sleep in the living room of an apartment of six 21 year old males.

Rob said...

I'm certainly not counting funerals as church appearances.

Rob said...

Brushed on the arm. And that's it for Lester.

Joe Grav said...

hbp...lester all over the place...take him out

Amy said...

Joe still trying to impress us with all those masses. Joe, whatever it is, it's more than I have been to!

(But I have been to synagogue too many times to count.)

Joe Grav said...

gutty outing by lester tonight. (claps)

gary said...

Who is the tampa announcer that has it in for youkilis?

laura k said...

I would welcome you guys, but I doubt you want to sleep in the living room of an apartment of six 21 year old males.

You are correct, sir. :)

If I'm too old for cat allergies, I'm too old for that, too.

Amy said...

Six 21 year old males. Hmm, let me think about that.

allan said...

old yeller coming in with his cross-bow

Joe Grav said...

I've been to synagogue once. Iv'e also been to one islamic service. And two baptist services.

I wanna see some more eastern religions, and I wanna get to one of those spiritual black churches.

laura k said...

But Joe, you are totally welcome to stay here if you see the Sox in Toronto. You'd need a car, we're not in town, but we're right down the street (well, highway) from Skydome.

Joe Grav said...

How far are you from downtown? My friends have cars.

Amy said...

OK, I thought about it. Nah. Even when I was 21, an apartment of 21 year old males would have probably grossed me out.

Joe Grav said...

and by the way, thank you! for the offer

allan said...

both staats and migraine were talking. they seem to not like manny more, actually. basically said no one on the sox likes manny.

they actually had someone on their staff look at the fight footage and run a stopwatch on manny. 28 seconds until he came out of the dugout. atleast they said he might have been in the clubhouse watching video (as DH).

laura k said...

I've been to tons of different religious services. I went through a shopping-for-religion phase before I realized I was atheist.

Almost became a Quaker but even that was too jesusy for me.

Of course I grew up going to synagogue, was Bat Mitzvah and all that.

Joe Grav said...

thankfully, it's an on-campus ap't, not an off-campus ap't, so it will be slightly less ridiculously anarchic and messy.

Amy said...

Hey, look who's pitching and we aren't even swearing and sweating!

Joe Grav said...

I just like going to religious services, but not for too long. I get bored. And I get bored 5 minutes into Catholic mass.

laura k said...

20-30 mins from downtown. We usually leave an hour to park, get food and stuff and we're way early.

We work on weekends, so we might not see each other much. But we have lots of room. As long as everyone likes dogs.

Amy said...

What I find interesting about religions is how similar they are (for better and for worse). At least at a very basic level.

allan said...

rays guys says the ump was basically letting lester do whatever he wanted to do.

however i think the ump told iwamura he was hit. i don't think he knew it.

Joe Grav said...

I love dogs. I get allergic, but I can deal, it's nothing too bad. I will let you know as the time approaches.

laura k said...

Amy, you're right! I guess a 6-run lead and a brawl will do that.

Amy said...

Jewish services are longer than masses.

Rob said...

0 walks for Lester.

Joe Grav said...

i, personally, am not looking forward to the all-young-male apartment thing either, btw.

Amy said...

I bet Jere is happy to see Timlin out there. :)

Joe Grav said...

re: jewish services, yeah, but i found it exotic the first time.

laura k said...

What I find interesting about religions is how similar they are (for better and for worse). At least at a very basic level.

That's how I realized I was atheist. I thought I didn't like Judaism, then realized it was deeper than that.

But I totally agree, it's fascinating. I love the Joseph Campbell type looking at myths of all different cultures and showing how similar they are.

Amy said...

Did you live in a dorm this year, Joe? Does BC not have co-ed housing on campus?

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